But Lee had that same personality type. As far as Lee giving any information to the Russians while he was over there, even though he said he would if they had asked, apparently they werent interested in it. You can't set that aside just because he is saying, "I'm a patsy." After getting some help with the Secret Service as far as getting a pass up to see Lee, I was allowed to visit with him approximately eight to 10 minutes. Definitely not. This might have been the first leaflet that he ever got from anybody on the street. With regard to his return home from Russia in June 1962 with his family -- what did he tell you about reporters meeting him, and what do you think it really meant? Hes thinking about going to Cuba. Mobile users: Watch the archive video by clicking here. This was unsettling. How would he have reacted to that? His comment was she is too much like Maw. That was our affectionate name for Mother. He toyed with people like that. In this interview, Posner talks . He's getting a better opportunity, he thinks, in Dallas, because it's a bigger job market over there than what Fort Worth was at the time. The Cold War was going on. Usually, it has to do with a man, sometimes it has to do with a job, but the threat that courses through his childhood and adolescence is a frenetic, harried, peripatetic that is entirely his mother's concoction. After Lees return, approximately two weeks, in the latter part of June 1962, he gets a call from one of the FBI agents I believe that was Mr. Fain in wanting to have a meeting with him. I recently spoke with Mr. Savodnik over the phone about his book. I don't know at what age Mother verbalized the effect that she felt he was a burden to her. [To those who say,] He didnt own a rifle. We know he owned a rifle. In a private note to one of his attorneys, Joseph Tonahill, Ruby wrote: \"Joe, you should know this. ~Sean Corruption; Deep State; News; NWO Tyranny; Politics; EXCLUSIVE: Lee Harvey Oswald . Hes going to fit in to where he needs to fit in to accomplish what he needs to accomplish what is very essential to get by with, to be somebody. An Interview with Lee Harvey Oswald's Mother Marguerite Oswald Youve got all kinds of documented evidence. I Led Three Lives he became really engrossed in that particular TV show, and he was still watching it when I left to go in the Marine Corps in 1952. For Oswald, he never ever has a sense of home, or rootedness, and it fills him with this sense of rage, which he not surprisingly directs against his mother. We were a burden. OK?\"Another motive was put forth by Frank Sheeran, allegedly a hitman for the Mafia, in a conversation he had with the then-former Teamsters boss Jimmy Hoffa. But he finally said, Brother, you wont find anything there.. Show more Comments are turned off. WDSU Archives: WDSU interview with Lee Harvey Oswald in 1963 Additional funding is provided by the Abrams Foundation; the John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation; Park Foundation; the Heising-Simons Foundation; and the FRONTLINE Journalism Fund with major support from Jon and Jo Ann Hagler on behalf of the Jon L. Hagler Foundation, and additional support from Koo and Patricia Yuen. Not surprisingly, as his novelty began to wear off, his interest in Minsk began to wear thin. Soviet officials, puzzled by the sight of Oswald, sent him to Minsk, where he would live until 1962, returning to the United States with a wife and infant daughter, along with a murderous rage that will culminate in the assassination of President John F. Kennedy in Dallas on November 22, 1963. He told me about it, and I told him I'd go with him. Anytime they brought anything up that pertained to the assassination of the president and the shooting of the police officer, he knew nothing about it. That's the shocker. I think the way Lee learned New York was just apply himself to it. [He wanted to] get established and start the American life, live the American dream. What do you do with his rifle? I anticipated, and I said to the family, Hell be back within a year. Well, it took him a little bit longer than that, but he started trying after a year to come back. The two-hour documentary special traces Oswald's life from his boyhood to that fateful day in Dallas on Nov. 22, 1963, posing a number of questions: Was Oswald the emotionally disturbed "lone. Gerald Hill.. In comparison to yourself, what was Lee missing from his childhood? What was his concern? What do you do with his pistol? When you do have a human asset in heart . He moves into his own apartment and everything. Well, he went to do the things he always liked to do -- got to the movies if he had the money, go to the library and read if he didn't have it. [37]Within hours of Ruby's arrest for shooting Oswald, a telegram was received at the Dallas city jail in support of Ruby, under the names of Hal and Pauline Collins. Whereas Ella was rather innocent and timid and curious and prone to a kind of girlishness, Marina was anything but that. Skip to main content Due to a planned power outage on Friday, 1/14, between 8am-1pm PST, some services may be impacted. Once again, it's just a continual cycle, and it starts downhill. When Lee is discharged, early discharge in September 1959, he returns to Fort Worth for about three days. Selecciona el departamento que quieras buscar. You don't think that there was any possibility that he was on some mission when he went to Russia? I anticipated, and I said to the family, "He'll be back within a year." Jack Ruby killed Lee Harvey Oswald on live TV - The Times of Israel The Most Risky Job Ever. Reporting on ISIS in Afghanistan. LEGEND: THE SECRET WORLD OF LEE HARVEY OSWALD : Epstein, Edward Jay: Amazon.nl: Boeken. With each failure to settle in, with each failure to secure a job or hold onto that job, with each failure to secure an apartment or placate his wife, to build any kind of life with each failure, his internal pressure mounts. I wrote him back that, to my knowledge, nothing he has done warrants any charges, because they did not let him accomplish anything over there, i.e., the U.S. Embassy did not accept his citizenship rejection. Can you summarize what the atmosphere was like there that Saturday, and what you made of it? New York City. But my goodness, this is completely out of the ballpark. I asked him, I said, Lee, what in the Sam Hill is going on? He said, I dont know what theyre talking about. I said, Lee, theyve got you charged with the death of the president, shooting a police officer. This was 1959. Thats the shocker. Whether Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone to assassinate President John F. Kennedy has been the subject of countless articles, books, and movies. He had tapped into or been drawn to the emotions which that politics helped to foment, but did he have a deep understanding of how revolutions unfold, and the relationship between the proletariat and the means of production? If you had to take a guess about when he got his political beliefs, how he was introduced to Marxism, what would you guess? Industries Crime and. Hes already tried living with Mother for about a week to 10 days, and that went the way it usually goes. As I learned later on, hes becoming very belligerent to Mother. This is a lawyer well known for being involved in left-wing causes. This was something all his own. Capture a web page as it appears now for use as a trusted citation in the future. Follow him on Twitter @davidastinwalsh. His sense of dislocation, of alienation -- this sense that he's in the wrong place. What attracted her to Oswald and why did she come back with him to the United States? A former litigator, Posner is a fulltime investigative writer. The appeal to Lee of something like that Marxism, communism, socialism, would be something unique, something different not [an] everyday occurrence. He would tolerate anything for a little bit. But things were tight at that time. Cuenta y listas Devoluciones y . He gave it to me either the first or second night to read. They wasn't going to convince him to say something. Aline Mosby was one of the first women assigned to cover the Kremlin, while stationed in Moscow in 1959 she interviewed a self-exiled Lee Harvey Oswald, who. He knew something they didn't know, and he would keep it to himself. Convinced that his brother was solely responsible for the assassination of John F. Kennedy, Oswald offers details in this interview about Lee's formative years and young adult life, and describes how his brother's love of television shows on intrigue and espionage such as "I Led Three Lives," became the "training ground for his imagination." Yes, Oswald moved twenty times with his mother before he turned seventeen, which is when he joined the Marines. What was he expecting when he went to the Soviet Union? JFK researcher: 'Oswald did not fire fatal shot' - ABC7 San Francisco The planning that Lee did probably at least extended all the way back to the time he was in Japan because of the clothes he purchased at the time. He toyed with the interrogators down at the Dallas police station, all that weekend [after the assassination]. Marxist doctrine is shot through with this furious rant against the bourgeoisie, against capitalism, against the society that had produced him. This is a lawyer well known for being involved in left-wing causes. Can you sort of talk about that character trait? He is convinced that his brother was solely responsible for the assassination of John F. Kennedy and in this interview offers details about Lee's formative years and young adult life, describing how his brother's love of television shows on intrigue and espionage such as "I Led Three Lives," became the "training ground for his imagination." "I Led Three Lives" -- he became really engrossed in that particular TV show, and he was still watching it when I left to go in the Marine Corps in 1952. Every move is prompted by one of his mother Marguerite's failures -- personal, professional, or otherwise. The Dallas Police Department was utter chaos. He would talk about anything else. Lees fantasy life, to me, became apparent in the 1948, 1949, 1950 period. The main thing was getting a job and a manuscript. I said, "If you told me everything you've done, it seems to me you have a case that you could perhaps get a reversal on that, that you did not do anything that they anticipated you done." He was making fun of how inept they were, and he was making fun of them all the time. Two, Jack Ruby did inestimable harm to the whole process of America coming to terms with what happened. December 4, 1963: In an interview Lee Harvey Oswald's mother, Marguerite Oswald, says assumes her son is innocent and that President John F. Kennedy would be alive and so would her son if Oswald . I'd love to do that, but you cannot. I don't think he had much experience with women, if any, before moving to the Soviet Union. I said, "If that never came about, if you didn't really betray the country and you only attempted to do it -- and they didn't let you do it anyway -- legally, then it seems to me you have a basis." She clearly saw in Oswald a ticket to ride, an opportunity to leave Russia. This was something all his own. They didn't finalize that. As far as material goods the car taking her to a grocery store the first time you cant believe how excited she was. On the right right is Sgt. He never did answer. But she certainly conveyed it to John and I at very early ages. I asked him about this lawyer in New York and I told him I would get him one down here, meaning in Texas. She has no control over him. Lee Harvey Oswald in New Orleans: TRICENTENNIAL MOMENT I think this was passed on to Lee. FRONTLINE: WHO WAS LEE HARVEY OSWALD? That's not to suggest it was in any way any less than that, but it's just that we refuse to see it in its true light. I think this was passed on to Lee. He said no, that wasn't necessary, he could take care of it. . Tell me about his interest in the television show I Led Three Lives and what that says about him and his imagination. Marina was upbeat on it. . He planned by himself, he executed by himself, he failed by himself. When you learned he had defected, did you have any explanation? Three, maybe more fundamentally, I think that modern man, especially in modern America, is just congenitally incapable of making sense of tragedy. I think three major things [were] on his mind at that particular time. Its there; put it to rest. If it didn't work for Russia, he was going to stay in Europe anyway. tapes & transcripts+credits+privacy policy FRONTLINE+wgbh+pbsi, web site copyright 1995-2014 Hola Elige tu direccin Todos los departamentos. As I learned later on, he's becoming very belligerent to Mother. Although that was Marguerite Oswald's first network television interview in many years, we were not the first journalists to speak with her. But I think all of Oswald's remarks are included here.To hear Lee Harvey Oswald's two radio interviews, go here:http://Oswald-On-The-Radio.blogspot.com He indicated that, if reporters were asking about when he's coming back, to say nothing He wanted not to be bothered by the reporters. And he was in the Marines as well. , Finally, I guess, I couldnt stand it anymore. I think it says that he is very pragmatic, and hes going to go with the punches. One, we tend to think of Kennedy as having been so great and really all-powerful, almost mythological, and at the same time we tend to think of Oswald as so low, that it seems unfathomable that somebody so low, so inconsequential, could topple someone so great. The third thing was he wanted to look into his dishonorable discharge from the Marine Corps, because he felt like that was unwarranted because, i.e., he was released with honorable conditions. 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He wanted to be an American, to be accepted by the American society, and so wherever he was he wanted to be accepted. Can you sort of talk about that character trait? One in this documentary series. Did he evince any sort of sophisticated understanding of Marxism or communism, or of the Soviet Union in general, before he left for Russia? Nobody was telling him whether this was good, bad or indifferent, or what the consequences of what his actions were. By Melissa De Witte Those alive when John F. Kennedy was assassinated on Nov. 22, 1963, remember where they were and what they were doing when they heard the news the president had been shot. He gave it to me either the first or second night to read. Lee Harvey Oswald Inside the Soviet Union [INTERVIEW] Whats the best answer you come to for yourself regarding his motive? Oswald had lived in Russia for three years at the height of the Cold War.This video, culled from NBC-TV's 11/22/63 coverage, includes Oswald's brief television appearance on New Orleans station WDSU-TV in August of 1963.Portions of this TV interview can be seen in various documentaries and films, but rarely is the entire (but brief) interview ever shown. They've got your rifle. Marina was upbeat on it. You look at that last year his work, and his family, trying to go to Cuba, trying to go back to Russia. They've gone to the extreme measures to prove that he owned that rifle. the best way to support us is to become a member at SGTreport.TV or become a SubscribeStar Member Thank you & God bless. When he first approached the divided cubicles and I picked up the telephone on my side, he picked up his. Maybe the next time he went to the library, he would follow up on it, and say Well, lets really see what this is about. That to me is very plausible for him to do. She has no control over him. In many respects, once he got beyond the superficialities, he found the actual substance, the content, the experience of communism and the Soviet Union very difficult to navigate. He pressed the lieutenants, he pressed the platoon leaders. You've got all the physical evidence that ties together. Daughters of Marina and Lee Harvey Oswald Come Forward I didnt press it any further. One such example is a photograph of Oswald in his backyard holding a . He's deeply unhappy and he stumbles on this whole world that stands in direct opposition to the world that he comes from. It's always personal. So if we don't understand something, we assume that there is some sort of plot or conspiracy -- that there is an order, and we're just not seeing it. Hallo, inloggen. Interview - Robert Oswald | Who Was Lee Harvey Oswald? - PBS Lee Harvey Oswald (October 18, 1939 - November 24, 1963) was a U.S. Marine veteran who assassinated John F. Kennedy, the 35th President of the United States, on November 22, 1963. You had said that he had very much been on his own in New York. This edition focuses on accused John F. Kennedy assassin Lee Harvey Oswald, wondering whether he was a "lone gunman, conspirator, or patsy." . I didn't press it any further. They even asked me if Id ever been an agent of the federal government or the CIA. I said, What did you tell them? He says, Well, dont you know? and he just laughed. Living in Fort Worth, TV was making its debut. None took him seriously. He was using his own imagination. Hes failing at almost every level. I said, "Lee, they've got you charged with the death of the president, shooting a police officer. He'd made some contacts within the Russian community in Fort Worth and in Dallas. Lee Harvey Oswald is dragged from the Texas Theatre by Patrolman C.T. I was just completely in the dark. If we go and get right down to the bottom line, we have to say, really and truly, in all candor, [she did] a lousy job, a lousy job. Jolly West visited Jack Ruby in jail and gave him an injection and soon after Ruby died from rapid cancer, Jack was also a patsy! The main thing was getting a job and a manuscript. It seemed like we were never in a location [more than] six or seven months, maybe a year at the most. It just didn't fit. Im talking about the police officer being shot and the president. I think it says that he is very pragmatic, and he's going to go with the punches. When Lee came back to Fort Worth, what kind of spirits was he in, and what kind of hopes did he have for his new life here? FRONTLINE is a registered trademark of WGBH Educational Foundation. They've got the original negative. Learn more It's cable reimagined No DVR space. Marina had gone over there to live with somebody until he got established over there. What was his concern? and he just laughed. Can you describe that for me? You could tell by the tone of the language, not that we could understand the Russian language, but the tone and the facial expressions that they were having an argument. In fact, she is quick to get moving on the bureaucratic process involved in that to emigrate. Consequently, people left it wide open. If we go and get right down to the bottom line, we have to say, really and truly, in all candor, [she did] a lousy job, a lousy job. Conspiracy theories point to purported inconsistencies in the events of Nov. 22, 1963, and in the evidence collected against Oswald. But he had said he was going to give the Russians any information he had, and it seemed like he did. He says that the "hard physical evidence" from the assassination leads him to one conclusion: "The Warren Commission was correct." . She had been overbearing or whatever. I said, "We can look into it. When you learned he had defected, did you have any explanation? Radio Talk Show Host, Bob Allen It was a terrible thing to look at. Could you describe Oswald's relationships with women? Lee's fantasy life, to me, became apparent in the 1948, 1949, 1950 period. What prompts him to take the first concrete steps to extricate himself from the Soviet Union is his break with Ella German. That was a training ground [for] his imagination. We know he owned a rifle. Thats the way I read him at the time. And in this place, he would join this much larger-than-life cause, and he would break permanently with the United States, and he would live happily every after in the Soviet Union. Among his nine books is the bestseller, Case Closed (1993), which concludes that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone in the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. That's the way I read him at the time. Hola, identifcate. He had acquired the vernacular of radical politics. Well, his concern was, was there anything that I was aware of that [there] were going to be charges placed against him from anybody? Mother would be putting him with a nanny, or a babysitter, or in an orphan home with us, just to get us out of her hair. What would have been the appeal to him about something like Marxism? This interview was conducted in 1993 in conjunction with the first broadcast of FRONTLINE's "Who Was Lee Harvey Oswald?". They wasnt going to convince him to say something. But he had prepared answers and statements, anticipating reporters either at the ship or some place down the line on the return. We talked about family matters. This was unsettling. Tell me about that, and what his attitude is and the kinds of things you talked about. But it was not terribly electric, it did not offer a lot in the way of possibility or newness. The third thing was he wanted to look into his dishonorable discharge from the Marine Corps, because he felt like that was unwarranted because, i.e., he was released with honorable conditions. But I think he was disappointed. Theyve got the camera. During the conversation, Hoffa claimed that Ruby was assigned the task of coordinating police officers who were loyal to Ruby to murder Oswald while he was in their custody. He went the following day, had the meeting. It maybe opened up some doors for him. Walker and, still chewing his cigar, Detective Paul Bentley, on Nov. 22, 1963. Marina Oswald and her mother-in-law, Marguerite Claverie Oswald, are seen through a window at the Dallas police station where her husband, Lee Harvey Oswald was being held in the. Lees trying. Tell me about his interest in the television show "I Led Three Lives" and what that says about him and his imagination. Pal reveals Lee Harvey Oswald's weird, paranoid life pre-JFK killing Initially, when we started talking, I was concerned about his bruises on his face that he had received at his capture at the Texas theater. It's good that people raise questions and say, "Wait a minute, let's take a second look at this." He didnt elaborate on that. We had an old black-and-white. Apparently he'd been planning this for a long time. What Lee missed from his childhood in comparison to me was the whole family being together all the time. Ive managed to keep it quiet. That was it. When he first approached the divided cubicles and I picked up the telephone on my side, he picked up his. FRONTLINE: WHO WAS LEE HARVEY OSWALD? (TV) - Paley Center for Media As things progressed down the line the job didn't work out. To me, you can't reach but one conclusion. In 1966, Marguerite Oswald, Lee Harvey Oswald's mother gave an exclusive interview to radio talk show host, Bob Allen. There's another seed that's planted in him that stayed there forever. That distinction belongs to my CBS colleague Bob. This is a struggle that has gone on with me for almost 30 years now. Similarly, the committee believed it was less likely that Ruby entered the police basement without assistance, even though the assistance may have been provided with no knowledge of Ruby's intentions The committee was troubled by the apparently unlocked doors along the stairway route and the removal of security guards from the area of the garage nearest the stairway shortly before the shooting There is also evidence that the Dallas Police Department withheld relevant information from the Warren Commission concerning Ruby's entry to the scene of the Oswald transfer.When Ruby was arrested immediately after the shooting, he told several witnesses that he helped the city of Dallas \"redeem\" itself in the eyes of the public, and that Oswald's death would spare \"Mrs. Hola Elige tu direccin Libros. Lee had high hopes when he first got back as to what he was going to do. I was just completely in the dark. Funding for FRONTLINE is provided through the support of PBS viewers and by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. I don't know how you want to express it, but that's the way he characterized her at the time. He never did answer. [To those who say,] "He didn't own a rifle." . What would have been the appeal to him about something like Marxism? He was a former Marine who had once defected to the Soviet Union. No, he was a superficial Marxist. Even fifty years later, Oswald's Minsk period remains understudied, despite the fact that Oswald's time in the Soviet Union was the longest period of stability in his life. Marina had gone over there to live with somebody until he got established over there. Jack Ruby changed history with one bold, violent action: killing accused presidential assassin Lee Harvey Oswald on live TV two days after the November 22, 1963, murder of President John F. Kennedy. I think thats an understatement. Im sure for a certain minimal fee, you could ride the subways all day, and he would do it just to get around. Account en lijsten Retourzendingen en . You look at all the data there, and it comes up to one conclusion as far as I'm concerned -- the Warren Commission was correct. Using archival footage, interviews and dramatic reconstruction, "Killing Oswald" explores the mystery of how and why John F. Kennedy and Lee Harvey Oswald were assassinated in 1963. I think he just liked the atmosphere that you could do anything that you wanted to do, that you could imagine you could do. And so the Marines, and then later the Soviet Union, should be viewed as an attempt by Oswald to find structure, to find place. on May 8, 2016. That influence was just tremendous on him. On Nov. 22, [1963] it went way downhill. What would it be? Oswald grew up in very trying circumstances in the early part of his life. We spent some time together. I think it's fair to say the Kennedy assassination had very little to do with John F. Kennedy. You see him for a few days when he gets out [of the Marines]. Youve talked about Lees character trying to do something, getting frustrated, doing something dramatic. But at the same time, he always was trying to get away from her. I think that, more than anything, sheds a spotlight on the one-dimensionality of his ideological commitments, as it were. Thats what it comes down to he wanted to be unique, by whatever it took. Oswald met and married Marina in the Soviet. Somehow, somebody never realized what the Sam Hill was going on. , As things progressed down the line the job didnt work out. Thats almost unbelievable. They even asked me if I'd ever been an agent of the federal government or the CIA." I dont know at what age Mother verbalized the effect that she felt he was a burden to her. tapes & transcripts+credits+privacy policy What do you do with his general opportunity? In his interview with FRONTLINE, Blakey calls the prosecution case against Lee Harvey Oswald "open and shut." What do you mean? He's going to fit in to where he needs to fit in to accomplish what he needs to accomplish what is very essential to get by with, to be somebody. You look at the general opportunity -- he was present. The Cold War was going on. This was his grand experience at the time. He was relaxed, but at about the second day, he starts talking about where he's going.
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