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Mr. Santillan has acknowledged that he talked often with Mr. Ciccone for a period of years, usually in the presence of other Mongols members. As a subscriber, you have 10 gift articles to give each month. The Mongols Motorcycle Club was convicted in late 2018 of racketeering and conspiracy. READ ALSO | Was head of OC biker gang a 'rat'? "Because I needed evidence to show the military that they had someone having an affair with a married man.". The Mongols have been fixtures on the biker scene since 1969, when the club was founded in Montebello, Calif. David Santillan, the president of the Mongols, was ousted by the group after a video surfaced that implied he was being protected by a federal agent. Santillan says he and Ciccone had a "rapport" after 25 years of dealing with one another. agent. There is no way hes gotten away with these incidents without more significant legal repercussions unless someone in law enforcement is in the background greasing the slides for him, Mr. Yanny said. The big Mongol was the first to learn how much Jesse loved to fight, as the gear cut open a savage gash in the big man's face, eyebrow to chin. The club was ordered to pay a $500,000 fine in what prosecutors hoped would be a down payment on putting it out of business. Discussion in 'Mayberry Lounge' started by Pliny Pete, Jul 18, 2021. The U.S. Attorneys Office had earlier tried and failed to force the Mongols to forfeit their rights to the clubs trademarked logo, a drawing of a brawny Genghis Khan-like figure riding a chopper while brandishing a sword, a landmark case that prosecutors felt would help weaken the club by undermining its visual identity. 02:34 LIL Dave is all over the main stream, 04:10 Why did lil dave not want ciccone on the stand, 06:45 Our invitation for Ciccone to come on the show, 15:14 Mongol Lawyer thinks LIL DAVE WAS COMPROMISED AFRAID AND TURNED ON HIS CLUB. There was nothing nefarious about it.". And he was tireless, Mr. DAlesio said. Now its onto covering what the biker lifestyle is all about- Fun and riding motorcycles. I've heard out of his mouth personally a couple of years ago that they were trying to avoid any issues with any clubs and trying to stay quiet as not to bring attention to themselves because of the . Annie tells Eyewitness News that her husband was "spinning out of control" and continued to cheat on her after the phone call. One of the clubs defense lawyers during the original trial, Stephen Stubbs, testified that Mr. Santillan had told him during the trial that he was regularly meeting with Mr. Ciccone as the proceedings were going on, even as he was overseeing the clubs defense team. Jesse gave other Mongols more of the same. There is no way hes gotten away with these incidents without more significant legal repercussions unless someone in law enforcement is in the background greasing the slides for him, Mr. Yanny said. Copyright 2023 KABC Television, LLC. In 2018, the government scored a victory of sorts. In one of them, according to their court papers, Mr. Santillan crashed his Mercedes in 2017 while driving impaired, damaging numerous cars parked on the street. Ruben Cavazos (born December 28, 1956) is an American criminal, and former International President of the Mongols Motorcycle Club.His autobiography, Honor Few, Fear None: The Life & Times of a Mongol, was published by HarperCollins in 2008. Mr. Santillan said it was ridiculous to think that Mr. Ciccone smoothed things over for him. Mongols MC President Lil Dave THE REAL AMERICAN CHOLO. The group has about 1,200 members in the United States, most of them Hispanic, and numerous chapters around the world. Judge Carter also pressed Annie Santillan on why she specifically called her husband a confidential informant and "a rat" if she was just trying to hurt him. #MONGOLSMC #MONGOLS #LILDAVEFor more than two decades, federal law enforcement authorities pursued the Mongols, a notorious motorcycle club whose members had. New features, smoother menu and backgrounds- PLUS!! In other words, she wrote, he is a rat.. Former Mongols President David Santillan continued to testify. Want to know whats wrong with the scene and why people are not joining clubs anymore? He's accused of being a confidential informant and working with the government during the Mongols' trial after his wife,. In 2018, the government scored a victory of sorts. Lil Dave is the former International President of the Mongols Motorcycle Club. On one occasion during the trial, Judge Carter expressed his displeasure to lawyers for both sides after being told by a U.S. ", LA County sheriff's recruits graduate months after Whittier crash, Highways into the San Bernardino Mountains are closed to drivers, LA County passes motion requiring retrofit of some buildings by 2033. Michael Tyrone Delaney for The New York Times. ", RELATED: Racketeering verdict in OC might force Mongols biker club to lose logo. In their petition, the Mongols argue that Mr. Santillan could have been pressured to leak strategy and other information to the government as a result of lenient treatment the defense claimed he received during his brushes with the law. The lawyer in charge of the retrial motion, Joseph A. Yanny, said the Mongols hoped to prove that an improper relationship between Mr. Santillan and Mr. Ciccone during the 2018 trial allowed the government to hear things it should not have about the Mongols defense strategy and even adversely influenced the Mongols presentation of their case. This is the final statement on this because honestly its mundane and boring. "It grew to become clear that Dave had betrayed the membership, his oath and all the pieces we maintain sacred," the membership stated in an announcement. He cant protect me, he told me, so we have to have an exit strategy, he told me, an apparently agitated Mr. Santillan said to her. However, Annie testified this week, saying she only did it to get back at her husband for cheating. agent who infiltrated three biker clubs. "It was an improper line of communication, particularly for a law enforcement personnel trying to convict an entity of being a criminal organization," Yanny said. 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I dont find theres sufficient cooperation to merit overturning the conviction, Judge Carter said in a ruling from the bench. Episode Website. That is the conviction and fine the Mongols are now trying to have set aside. "I wanted him to feel kind of what I was feeling, the shame and embarrassment and betrayal. At the core of the case was a video of a conversation between Mr. Santillan and his wife that she had passed on to members of the biker club last year, accompanied by a text message in which she told them that her husband had been a confidential government informant. agent over the years because it helped avert trouble. "He was afraid, and I think he turned on his loyalty to the club to protect himself. "I know we've had a rapport and I always looked out for you and you were always respectful. Eyewitness News has obtained the video that was recorded in June of 2021 when David Santillan was drunk and despondent. T wo years after a federal jury deemed the notorious Mongols Motorcycle Club a criminal organization, attorneys for the club are asking a judge for a new trial accusing its former president of . Annie Santillan says she surreptitiously recorded the call because David's mistress had been harassing her. The video was recorded in June of last year, when, Ms. Santillan said, she felt scorned because her husband had been unfaithful and after she had obtained a restraining order against him for what she claimed was physical abuse. Both Mr. Santillan, a Mongols member for almost 25 years who was voted out of the club in July, and the agent, John Ciccone, who retired in December after 32 years at the A.T.F., deny that Mr. Santillan was acting as an informant during the trial, though Mr. Ciccones sworn declaration does not address whether Mr. Santillan had acted as a confidential informant in the past. "The relationship was just cordial, respectful relationship just to keep the peace between us and the club," Santillan said. David Santillan says he was thrown out of the Mongols after a "closed door" meeting where he did not get a chance to refute the allegations against him. Join u. AboutPressCopyrightContact. "He goes, I know you've been doing a bang-up job at the club, can't protect you from this point forward," Santillan recounted of their conversation. Its a new age now, TIk Toc, FB,IG they are all doing it and worse of all creators on YouTube. His Club recruited many of their chapters over the internet, another known fact (We had their National Vice President who served for 10 years case on this channel where it was admitted that they supported law enforcement and threw on a diamond.WATCH THE VIDEO AT END OF ARTICLEL) Most would compare this to an Iron Order type of set up. agent. The Mongols have been fixtures on the biker scene since 1969, when the club was founded in Montebello, Calif. A petition for a new trial and reversal of the half-million-dollar fine, which is scheduled for an initial hearing on Monday in the U.S. District Court in Santa Ana, Calif., claims that Mr. Santillan, 52, covertly cooperated for years with a special agent from the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. Former Mongols Biker Club Leader Denies He Was Ever a Rat The Mongols Motorcycle Club allege that their former president David Santillan was a confidential informant during their RICO. On Thursday, after hearing testimony from more than a dozen witnesses, including from Mr. Santillan himself, over the past several months, Judge David O. Carter of the Federal District Court in Santa Ana, Calif., found that there was no convincing evidence of such a claim and refused to set aside racketeering and conspiracy convictions as well as a penalty of $500,000. In my opinion, the only reason the government brought this RICO case was to take another run at the patch, having failed each time in the past, said George L. Steele, a lawyer for the Mongols who is handling a separate appeal in the case. SANTA ANA, Calif. After federal prosecutors won a landmark racketeering conviction against the Mongols motorcycle club, in an attempt to put an end to the outlaw groups long record of murder, attempted murder and drug dealing, the Mongols countered with an unusual claim: Their leader, they said, had been secretly helping the government in its efforts to bring down the organization. Federal prosecutors have been focusing on the Mongols logo since 2008. The U.S. Attorneys Office has failed to force the Mongols to forfeit their trademarked logo. The California motorcycle group had claimed that its former president, David Santillan, was a government informant. A petition for a new trial and reversal of the half-million-dollar fine, which is scheduled for an initial hearing on Monday in the U.S. District Court in Santa Ana, Calif., claims that Mr. Santillan, 52, covertly cooperated for years with a special agent from the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. Chunks of flesh and trails of blood were flying everywhere as he took full swings at attacker after attacker. The biker group hopes to set aside a $500,000 racketeering conviction, alleging that its former president cooperated with the government during a trial. Marshal that Mr. Santillan and Mr. Ciccone had been seen chatting at a Starbucks near the courthouse. In another instance, in 2014, Mr. Santillan and his wife got into a brawl with other people at a racetrack, the Mongols filing says. The #1 Biker News Website Since 2011-Covering up to minute biker news including Outlaw Motorcycle Clubs & Biker News Worldwide. Black Dragon's Sunday Night Round Table discusses Insane Throttle's live interview with former Mongol's MC Nation's International President Lil' Dave. The Mongols Motorcycle Club was convicted in late 2018 of racketeering and conspiracy. In other words, Ms. Santillan wrote in the text, he is a rat. In the video, played several times during the hearings, Ms. Santillan is talking to her husband on speakerphone when he informs her that Mr. Ciccone will be retiring. The government has filed a separate appeal on that issue, seeking a narrower forfeiture order that would take away the clubs right to trademark exclusivity over the logo. Thats what I meant by protect in the video.. He and his wife, Annie, were estranged after he had an affair. This wasnt the case . Prez Lil Dave Ep 936 Hells Angels A violent price to pay **FULL AUDIO** Cavazos was raised by his father in Highland Park, Los Angeles, California and joined the Avenues, a Mexican American street gang, at an early age before . U.S. News Mongols Motorcycle Club Says Its Leader Was an Informant Evelyn Blackwell June 5, 2022 7 minutes read For more than two decades, federal law enforcement authorities pursued the Mongols, a notorious motorcycle club whose members had a long history of murder, assault, drug dealing and robbery. A jury ordered the forfeiture, but Judge Carter reversed the order, concluding that it infringed on the groups constitutional rights. The #1 Biker News Website Since 2011-Covering up to minute biker news including Outlaw Motorcycle Clubs & Biker News Worldwide, For more than two decades, federal law enforcement authorities pursued the Mongols, a notorious motorcycle club whose members had a long history of murder, assault, drug dealing and robbery.In 2018, the government scored a victory of sorts. agent who infiltrated three biker clubs. The explosive allegations come after a secretly recorded video. The only thing he is guilty of is talking to John a lot and having some kind of rapport with him, she said in an interview. "This was a lifestyle, a culture, and a way of life. The U.S. Attorney's office asked him whether he is - or ever was - any sort of informant for the ATF or for any state or federal agency. Both Mr. Ciccone and the U.S. Attorneys Office declined to comment on the motion beyond the government response filed in court, which said the petition for a new trial was replete with false and unsupported allegations and speculation.. The club was ordered to pay a $500,000 fine in what prosecutors hoped would be a down payment on putting it out of business.https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/05/us/mongols-new-trial.html, 00:00 Overview of the New York Times Article01:40 I know I said I wouldnt cover this anymore BUT03:56 Mongols MC Say LIL DAVE was an informant05:44 What the Mongols Rico Case was about07:30 Wheres the paperwork09:26 The explosive video11:50 How long was lil dave a member of the mongols13:47 Why wasnt it done all the time15:47 WOW he cant do this17:14 Usually he had other members with him19:10 The new policies21:44 The leaked strategy, Insane Throttle Support Club Become a memberNow, Insane Throttle/Motorcycle Madhouse Radio YouTube and AudioDisclaimer, Meet the Insane Throttle Contributing Columnist James Hollywood Macecari, Motorcycle Clubs Riding Clubs and Associations Near Me Index &Listings, Our Policies here at Insane Throttle Publications. Clubs used to represent more than territory, it was about freedom and doing what you wanted. The original case attracted widespread attention because of the federal governments unusual attempt to force the Mongols to forfeit their rights to the clubs trademarked logo a drawing of a brawny Genghis Khan-like figure riding a chopper while brandishing a sword and thus relinquish a big source of the organizations mystique. For more than two decades, federal law enforcement authorities pursued the Mongols, a notorious motorcycle club whose members had a long history of murder, assault, drug dealing and robbery. The explosive allegations come after a secretly recorded video surfaced of Santillan talking to his wife about the lead ATF agent on the case -- John Ciccone. Mongols biker club is denied new racketeering trial after claims its leader was informant Mongols members walk over the 6th Street Viaduct in Los Angeles. David Santillan tells Eyewitness News that he was in a "really bad place" when the video was recorded and that he's never been disloyal to the Mongols. The only thing he is guilty of is talking to John a lot and having some kind of rapport with him, she said in an interview. Federal prosecutors have been focusing on the Mongols logo since 2008. In the video, Ms. Santillan was talking to her husband on speakerphone when he told her that Mr. Ciccone was retiring. Now the Mongols want a new trial and say their former president, David Santillan, was a confidential informant for the ATF.The explosive allegations come after a secretly recorded video surfaced of Santillan talking to his wife about the lead ATF agent on the case John Ciccone.Eyewitness News has obtained the video that was recorded in June of 2021 when David Santillan was drunk and despondent. The judge will most likely consider a series of procedural matters on Monday, lawyers said, with additional hearings expected before any final ruling. A supervisory special agent with the A.T.F. During the call, Santillan is heard talking about John Cicconne, the lead ATF agent on the case. She also said in a text message to other Mongols, now filed with the court, that her husband had acted for a time as a confidential government informant. They are sick and tired of the gangster shit, they want to be bikers and be apart of a scene that was once true to itself (Thus the reason for pop up clubs and lack of respect for protocol and tradition). In exchange, the club said in its motion, the agent appears to have spared Mr. Santillan from serious legal consequences for several offenses since 2011. Interview with Former International President LIL Dave from the Mongols MC - Insane Throttle Biker News mongols motorcycle club Interview with Former International President LIL Dave from the Mongols MC November 11, 2021 Live with Former Mongol MC Int. The Mongols are relying on an explosive video shared by Mr. Santillans wife, Annie Santillan, who, during a stretch when she was angry with her husband over his infidelity, had her daughter record a conversation in which he appeared to refer to protection he had received from the A.T.F. He said they discussed matters such as public safety when the Mongols or other clubs were planning parties or motorcycle rallies to ensure that members stayed in line and that rival groups kept their distance. ", RELATED: Mongols Motorcycle Club vows to fight trademark loss. Mongols attorney Joe Yanny says his clients want their 2018 racketeering conviction thrown out or at the very least a new trial. After testifying briefly in court Monday, Annie told Eyewitness News that her husband has never been a confidential informant and that she only sent the text message because she wanted to destroy him in the eyes of the Mongols. Available on GOOGLE PLAY CLICK HERE TO DOWNLOAD FROM GOOGLE PLAY STORE. Thats what I meant by protect in the video.. The indictment did not target any individuals but alleged that the club itself had engaged in an organized conspiracy of crimes such as murder, attempted murder and drug dealing. John looked out not just for me but the club, Mr. Santillan said. Never in my life have I ever implicated anybody in the club for some kind of nefarious activity. Hes in a tough position right now because of the wife. The #1 Biker News Website Since 2011-Covering up to minute biker news including Outlaw Motorcycle Clubs & Biker News Worldwide. "I was literally trying to destroy him," she answered, adding that she didn't understand what he was talking about in relation to Ciccone. Hopefully it will go back internally and people can worry about the profiling and patch case. agent on the case, John Ciccone, sharing inside information about the club in exchange for lighter penalties for various offenses. In the case that led to the racketeering conviction against the Mongols, Mr. Ciccone had acted as the case agent. LIL DAVE WAS COMPROMISED AFRAID AND TURNED ON HIS CLUB. I take the hit on this one because I shouldve waited for his side- But I always take a the word of a club member and this time it was a mistake. In their petition, the Mongols argue that Mr. Santillan could have been pressured to leak strategy and other information to the government as a result of lenient treatment the defense claimed he received during his brushes with the law. He said their communication was for public safety and showed the Mongols that there is ATF presence at their events. In this Oct. 21, 2008 file photo a Mongols' motorcycle gang member vest is displayed during a news conference in Los Angeles. "I think they got David in compromising situations," Yanny tells Eyewitness News. But the group that was once the most powerful biker organization in the West other than its archrivals, the Hells Angels, is returning to court next week, hoping to set aside the racketeering and conspiracy convictions based on what it says is new evidence about its previous leader, David Santillan. Mr. Santillan holding a photo of himself with fellow Mongols members. The government, in its own appeal, is making another run at the Mongols logo, renewing an earlier request for a narrower forfeiture order that would take away the clubs right to trademark exclusivity over the emblem. The saying 99% and 1% is very true at this moment in time- Most bikers who are the 99% and majority can care less about motorcycle clubs anymore- Its fading and fading fast. For more than two decades, federal law enforcement authorities pursued the Mongols, a notorious motorcycle club whose members had a long history of murder, assault, drug dealing and robbery. The A.T.F. Mongols MC is a one percenter motorcycle club founded in Montebello, California on December 5, 1969. He also denied that he ever helped Mr. Santillan win lenient treatment in his brushes with the law, which included a crash in his Mercedes five years ago while driving impaired. Sherdog.com is a property of Mandatory Media, LLC, monitoring_string = "5200e30beed193e5fe31f8bccc2bdcbf". In exchange, the club said in its motion, the agent appears to have spared Mr. Santillan from serious legal consequences for several offenses since 2011. The judge will most likely consider a series of procedural matters on Monday, lawyers said, with additional hearings expected before any final ruling. Such an order would allow anyone to use the image. If you've been paying attention the last couple of years, the Mongols have been on a sort of federal probation and that's the club as a whole. He and his wife, Annie, were estranged after he had an affair. In 2018, the government scored a victory of sorts. Mongols Motorcycle Gang Member Sentenced to Life in Prison for Murdering President of San Francisco Hells Angels U.S. Attorney's Office May 15, 2012: Northern District of California (415) 436-7200; SAN FRANCISCOChristopher Bryan Ablett, a/k/a "Stoney," a member of the Modesto Chapter of the Mongols outlaw motorcycle gang, was sentenced . Clubs used to represent more than territory, it was about freedom and doing what you wanted. But then he began to talk about now-retired ATF agent John Ciccone, the lead agent on the racketeering case. After one year he's done and he can't protect me, so we have to have an exit strategy.". SANTA ANA, Calif. (KABC) -- Testimony resumed inside an Orange County federal courthouse on Wednesday morning for a hearing in which a judge will decide if the Mongols Motorcycle Club will get a new trial after being convicted of conspiracy and racketeering in 2018. Prosecutors convinced a jury in California that these crimes were not just the result of individual bikers behaving badly, but the work of an organized criminal enterprise that had participated in a campaign of mayhem. If youre going to listen to a dude that does nothing but market gimmicks AKA CULTURE VULTURE, on YouTube, part of the scene with no time in at all, thats on you. Self-Improvement. "All I wanted to do was to tarnish his image," says Annie Santillan. #MONGOLSMC #LILDAVE #MONGOLSMOTORCYCLECLUBIs Lil Dave from the Mongols innocent?Full Interview American Cholo https://youtu.be/PzmaL8MliAI#LILDAVE#MONGOLSMC#. On Thursday last week, The Suit was downtown at a pre-trial hearing in the case of David Martinez, accused of killing Pomona Police Officer Shaun Diamond in November. There could be a particular concern that the defense lawyer was unwittingly receiving directions from someone aligned with the government, he said. The ultimate implications for society are paramount here, he said. Ciccone told him he was retiring. In one of them, according to their court papers, Mr. Santillan crashed his Mercedes in 2017 while driving impaired, damaging numerous cars parked on the street. The Mongols are now claiming that throughout their attempt to defend the club in the long-running criminal case, their own leader was secretly talking to the government. and other law enforcement agencies have long gone after biker organizations by co-opting members as informants and infiltrating the groups with their own undercover agents. David Santillan, the president of the Mongols, was ousted by the group after a video surfaced that implied he was being protected by a federal agent.CreditMichael Tyrone Delaney for The New York Times. The text reads in part: "You guys need to see this video" and that David "has been working with the government is all [sic] entire time" and that's "why he felt so comfortable to do what he does he is simply a CI In other words he is a rat.". Now the Mongols want a new trial and say their former president, David Santillan, was a confidential informant for the ATF.

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