-, "urgent, furiousadmirably well editedthis incredible, well-researched documentary demonstrates the vast gulf one life can leave behind." substance to it. This film was no longer a letter to you, Unidentified Man #23: Well, everybody always says, well, what. I, Mr. BAGBY: (Audio recording) Look, we will do what is best for Zachary. Then, upon. That child was Zachary, to whom the film is addressed. The other, their grandson, Zachary Turner. Just from that, conversation, you could kind of get the sense that she didn't want Zachary, MORRISON: And for the Bagbys, Shirley issued what sounded somehow. But their efforts to. This is the kind of couple, themselves beloved by hundreds, that produces the kind of son who is beloved by hundreds. One for such a wonderful young man that you raised. Previously, Kate was a Founder & Executive Director at Read More Kate Bagby's Phone Number and Email Last Update 11/14/2022 10:26 AM Email k***@mothersagainstmurder.org Engage via Email Contact Number (***) ***-**** Engage via Phone Mobile Number I extend my deepest thanks and greatest respect to MP Scott Andrews, his associate Ken Carter, Senator Tommy Banks, his executive assistantThrse Gauthier, MP Peter Stoffer, Senator Anne Cools, Gord McIntosh and everyone in Parliament who saw across party lines to support this bill's passage into law. KATE: I knew exactly what my son looked at before he died. Are you having a good day with grandmom and. She was here.' Plus: each Wednesday, exclusively for subscribers, the best books of the week. They hadn't been identified, but it's obvious who they, MORRISON: He was right. He laughs as he recalls images of Zachary running up and down a hall, saying that is a joy. I think they just poured all of their love and, MORRISON: A week after Kurt's visit, Zachary turned one. Curated newsletters for curious minds. MORRISON: It was November 2001 when Dr. Andrew Bagby, 28 years old, was found in hospital scrubs lying facedown in the state park in Derry Township, Pennsylvania. And I saw that night her malignancy. Creating stronger communities. Djing. And she followed Andrew to St. John's. But I used to look at her hand and think, it. The committee passed the bill unanimously, which is how it came to be heard in the House for a final vote this week. (Photos of David and Kate with Zachary; Shirley being escorted from court). Slamdance Film Festival book signing! It brings its own special brand of. KATE: And so she said, `Oh, take him and get him dressed,' to me. He was like, `Eh, mm.' MORRISON: There might have been a particular reason for this. David Bagby, left, and Kate Bagby, right, celebrate with their son Andrew Bagby at his graduation from medical school at Memorial University of Newfoundland in June 2000. Because she didnt know love either. Still grieving the death of their son, the Bagbys moved to Newfoundland and fought for custody of Zachary. And he was crying, so I went into the ladies room and sat there, KATE: Made her very angry. MORRISON: But then she claimed she couldn't find it. So I gave her the. He travelled across the country, and to England, to collect these reminiscences, which reveal Bagby to be a caring physician and a beloved and charismatic goofball. prayed that his murderer, whoever it was, would be swiftly brought to justice. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) This is Shirley Turner, yes. Nobody drives 16 hours after you've just broken up with them.' Dear Zachary: A Letter to a son about his father ', MORRISON: But they'd have to wait almost a month. We made this place together, we own it together, we run it together. Interviews with Bagbys friends and family take the place of the usual lineup of witnessesas much attention is given to the fact that he always wore shorts as to the number of times he was shotand their pain functions as evidence as the film builds a case against the Canadian bail and extradition protocols. Senator Tommy Banks of Alberta will be the bill's sponsor in the Senate, and will shortly be distributing DVDs of "Dear Zachary" to all members of the Senate, just as he and MP Andrews distributed the film to all members of the House of Commons last fall when he introduced the bill. MORRISON: What do you do about this? Someone found a car that didn't belong. David Bagby Obituary (2022) - Statesville, NC - Statesville Record Why? ', MORRISON: When Dr. Andrew Bagby's bullet-riddled corpse was, found in a Pennsylvania state park in November 2001, his devastated parents. They were good friends; it was he who Bagby had told about the fatal meeting with Turner beforehand. Yeah, I mean, I can watch that for sure. And that's when she said, `He loves you, more than me. I lay in--laid there in bed a couple of times and thought, If I just kill her, Zachary will be safe. They also have Andrews friends, like Kuenne, who remain in their current lives and with whom they can talk about Andrew. MORRISON: Life for Andrew Bagby was good. MORRISON: Coming up, Andrew dead. Schultz quotes the brother of Hae Min Lee, the victim of the murder at the center of the first season of Serial, responding, on Reddit, to the surge of interest in the case: I wont be answering any questions because . (Photo of David and Kate; airplane; lake and coast), MORRISON: But here's the thing. IE 11 is not supported. I got to put on the record the fact that I would like a much stronger bill, said David. But something kept me going, and. Blood red screen. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Then I can't consent to more time right now. An abridged version of "Dear Zachary" will premiere on CBC Newsworld in Canada on Sunday, October 25th at 10 PM ET/PT. whose parents are charged with a violent crime. decision. Thought that maybe he had found somebody that he could really be happy with. But how? There won't be any question about, whether she can hurt him. Oh my god. Andrew's parents say he tried, frequently, to ease out of the relationship altogether, but Shirley wouldn't buy it. The bill has added an amendment to Canada's criminal code giving courts the right to refuse bail to someone charged with a serious crime who is deemed a potential danger to children under the age of 18. MORRISON: Shirley also claimed to have been at home in Iowa, sick in bed the day of the murder. Kurt is incredibly grateful for the good folks at MSNBC for making this arrangement happen. Woman #11: Doesn't matter what happened. And then, November 2001, Andrew Bagby was shot dead in a state park not far from the hospital in which the young doctor was a resident, and his devoted parents all but lost the will to live. Except this story is worse. Click HERE for assistance. MORRISON: In July 2003, a year and eight months after their son's, murder, Andrew's friend, filmmaker Kurt Kuenne, who'd been making the, documentary film for Zachary about the father he'd never know, arrived in. And you just bought the gun, right? And if they don't charge her, they had no way to restrict her travel. I dont know how else to say it except they are grown-ups: they are funny, but serious; playful, but organized. Unidentified Man #21: (Talking in group) I know. (Photo of Andrew and Kurt; Kurt editing film; collection of videotapes with, Mr. KUENNE: It was no longer just my search for what was left of, (Collection of videotapes of raw footage), Mr. KUENNE: I thought, I'm kind of the keeper of all this footage that is. don't have these meltdowns and emotional scenes. And we came back. This is the kind of couple, themselves beloved by hundreds, that produces the kind of son who is beloved by hundreds. But as someone else says, Grief is loves unwillingness to let go. So Andrew's father could just as easily be talking about love. Laudable ambition, difficult to achieve. Andrew was found dead Nov. 5, 2001 in a state park just outside Latrobe, PA, where he was a resident in the local hospitals family medicine programme. The Bagbys, who recently marked their 50th wedding anniversary, say it sustained them for nearly a decade as they struggled to come to terms first with the 2001 slaying of their 28-year-old son, Dr. Andrew Bagby, and later with the murder of Andrew's son, 13 . And she followed Andrew to St. John's.. MORRISON: Andrew's body was discovered the following morning with bullets lodged in his face, buttock, chest, the back of his head. with a supervisor, and we had to be searched. David Bagby Obituary (1957 - 2022) - Statesville, NC - My Web Times Dear Zachary is now available on DVD! anything like that, would we take care of Zachary? And in that way this tragedy remains hers and hers alone. A review of Turner's and Zachary's deaths, released in 2006 by Winnipeg-based coroner Peter Markesteyn, concluded the provinces social services system failed Zachary and his death could have been prevented. I'm absolutely sure. (Youll never guess who showed up on my doorstep, one of Bagbys friends recalls him saying. Shirley asked them to take custody of Zachary while she was gone. KATE: People thought she was delicate, you know, and looked KATE: She couldn't kill. This is the attention thing I was talking about. MORRISON: Andrew tried to make a clean break with Shirley in October 2001. When he returned to the States, Shirley showed up soon after. Amending Canada's bail code was my goal in releasing "Dear Zachary" publicly; it is my pleasure to announce that goal is now a reality. In this way, Dear Zachary inverts the usual way of telling murder stories. Sometimes, if you are paying attentionclose attentionyou can see it coming, even if only barely. In the end, she died, but love did not. helped convince me that she would not hurt Zachary. -. Mr. BAGBY: I have a lot of trouble with those things too, and I suspect what really goes on, what's called intuition, is really a very, very complex calculation of lots of little indicators, little things that Andrew said on the phone maybe. December 15, 2009: The documentary was originally released in 2008. -, "**** (Four stars). The good life started in earnest when Kate first laid eyes on Petty Officer David Bagby, who was serving on the USS Hornet, docked in Long Beach in 1967. You know? MORRISON: And tell me about your mum with Zachary. Awaiting extradition, Turner drowned 13-month-old Zachary and took her own life as well. Asked if he would have done anything different back then, David replies, kill Shirley Turner.. With that kind of goodness, anything is possible. Mr. BAGBY: Without those cell phone records, they couldn't formally charge. Blu-ray | DVD, 10th Anniversary Edition: And Turner had said he was a, MORRISON: But there were some caveats. did. you have anywhere to put that, or that Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Not yet. I mean, she. After Newfoundland woman killed their son and grandson, California Remember these two things as I go on. She called trying to get Andrew when he was here doing a rotation here in California. My TV-consumption habits for the past several months have been awash in murder, and Netflix knows itwhich is how, fresh from binge-watching Making a Murderer and hungry for more, I recently came across Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father. This odd documentarywhich deals with the death of a young physician named Andrew Bagby, who was a childhood friend of the films director, Kurt Kuennemade a small splash when it was first released, in 2008, but its worth revisiting now, in the midst of the recent bonanza of true-crime hits. View Source Suggest Edits Memorial Photos Flowers Maintained by: Tracy Lane The International Film Music Critics also nominated his musical score for Best Documentary Score of 2008. In the course of the next two yearsas Turners extradition process dragged on, as Bagbys parents moved from California to Newfoundland to fight for custody of the baby, and as the case eventually took an even more terrible turnthe film came to be about those events as well. kate-and-david-bagby-now-pdf 2/27 Downloaded from thesource2.metro.net on July 22, 2022 by guest the recent London bombings to Law and Order type crimes that make the news only to be replaced by another name.As such, more people are left with the aftermath of dealing with the violent death of a loved one. MORRISON: And go she did, back to Newfoundland, Canada. Is it OK? Mr. SHEARS: When we woke up in the morning, realized they weren't there. One of the first to meet Zachary was, (Photo of Zachary Turner; wedding dance; photo of Shirley and Zachary; photo. Shirley, held his birthday party at McDonald's. Kurt Kuennes 2008 documentary, Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father, deserves a second look, especially in light of the recent popularity of true-crime programs like Serial and Making a Murderer., Photograph courtesy Oscilloscope Pictures / Everett. We couldnt actually believe shed (harm Zachary), but we consciously feared she could do that, he said. His medical studies in Newfoundland were complete. Click HERE for ticket information. He said, `The psychotic bitch. PDF Bail bill inspired by Bagby's murdered grandson Click here for ticket information! Mr. BAGBY: (Audio recording) You don't like this answer, but I'm going to, give it to you again. MORRISON: But would that somebody turn out to be a blessing or a curse? Which is to say, the woman who killed Dr. Andrew Bagby is pregnant with Dr. Andrew Bagbys baby. I didn't even know why I was going, other than Mom didn't want. Newfoundland to meet the now 11-month-old little boy. I can understand that. the water. And Im blessed to have David and quite frankly David is blessed to have me, said Kate. Bagby came from Sunnyvale, California, and was the son of Kathleen Daphne Bagby ( ne Barnard), a registered nurse and midwife from Chatham, England, United Kingdom; and David Franklin Bagby, an American former United States Navy serviceman and computer engineer. MORRISON: The rage was tempered with a yearning to know just why Andrew had been assassinated. The committee passed the bill unanimously, which is how it came to be heard in the House for a final vote this week. She always spent time with him, and seemed to me like she was, MORRISON: Still grieving over the loss of their only son, David, and Kate Bagby had forsaken their lives in California and moved to, Newfoundland, not just to make sure justice was being served, but also to be, (Kate; David; Newfoundland; Supreme Court building; photo of Zachary), KATHERINE: There's this wonderful feeling, `I'm going to see part of Andrew. Andrew Bagby, a gregarious family-practice resident at Latrobe, was found shot to death on Nov. 5, 2001, in Keystone State Park. In January, the film was nominated for Best Documentary by both the Chicago Film Critics Association and the Online Film Critics Society, who also nominated writer/director/composer Kurt Kuenne for Breakthrough Filmmaker of 2008. The bill, if passed into law later this year, would justify detention in custody for those accused of a serious crime who are a potential danger to their own children under the age of 18. Inspired by his mother's tales of interesting medical cases and wonderful patients, Andrew decided he would be a doctor. This is a huge step forward in the mission Dear Zachary was created to accomplish. MORRISON: It was August 2003, the wee hours of the morning by the ocean. A court mandate allowed David and Kate Bagby to spend time, with their grandson, babysitting, even sharing in joint activities with. Instead, the films dramatic nodes are scenes such as the one in which Bagbys parents, David and Kate, recall going to identify their sons body. Shirley Turner had walked out to the end, of a pier with tiny Zachary strapped to her body with a sweater, then jumped, into the ocean. She would never go away. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) His parents don't even know, do they? He's a little bleary eyed, but. Now that Zachary was starting to walk, he was free to make a beeline to. He said, `What can happen?'. Mr. SHEARS: You could see in his eyes that he was full of life. MORRISON: But then things changed. MORRISON: And, says T.J., in the way of her opportunities to be. Meeting her at 6. No less than seven of those friends had asked Bagby to be the best man at their weddings. We just want as many people as possible to know this story, the documentary, for the practical reasons in my fantasies, I suppose some judge, some place, actually gets it and denies bail to somebody who could kill again. David Bagby. How the fuck do you live like that? One of those forgettable pieces of solipsistic pseudo-art that is essentially just a scrapbook that was released to the public and then everyone just said it was good because no one wanted to hurt anyones feelings. And he's like, `I'm not looking for anything serious. Former Production Manager at Mountain Gospel Radio. But two months later, that would change, after Shirley appealed, again to be released on bail. We did have him for a little while, she said. GARDNER: (Audio recording) I'm not going to kid you, Doctor. Lastly, Dear Zachary was screened in Ottawa on March 11, 2009 for various members of Parliament and their staff; as a result, a small but committed group of Parliamentarians are now drafting a bill based on the issues raised in the film. Shirley Turner had some startling news. Well, you dont have to look far, said Dr. T. Clark Simpson, who worked with Bagby. children, who had recently been in a bad car accident. Not too long ago? Zachary, I love you, baby. Both screenings were sold out and received sustained standing ovations, an exceptionally rare event in the 14 year history of Slamdance. On Nov. 5, Kate, who is originally from England, pictures Turner sitting on top of a Guy Fawkes bonfire and her family all around it with fireworks. . Said, `Oh, no, I really can't.'. of a woman and a baby on the beach, and I lost it again. Watching the documentary brings up a mix of feelings from joy to hatred. Did anyone have more friends than he? Home video captured what looked like a. typical domestic scene, but beneath these happy images lies a darker truth. MORRISON: You're in turmoil at that point. Believing that even where there is evil, there is also a tremendous amount of good." MORRISON: I never know what to think about these feelings that people get. "This is the purest, most intensely raw film I have ever seen of any kind, dramatic or nonfiction. Bill C-464 when enacted will justify detention in custody for a person accused of a serious crime who is a potential danger to their own minor children. They are prophecies. They are simply good people. Zachary didn't seem like. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) That you aren't trying to take my place. Gruesome details, abstruse discoveries, and personal secrets are examined with a seemingly cold and impartial eye in the light of the promise that, if seen rightly, they can yield up a picture of the truth. There were moments when something happened that had my heart beating so fast I became lightheaded and had to refocus myself. Shirley. August 5, 2008: After Newfoundland woman killed their son and grandson - SaltWire Mr. DAVID BAGBY: I threw the phone at the desk, and I jumped up and just screamed, `No! I can say it like that because even without a trial, the evidence was so damning we might as well have been next to her when she carried out the crime. Mr. BAGBY: (Audio recording) Just got up. The Bagbys were compelled to ensure what happened to their son and grandson never happens again. Its a muddled structure, and the film makes frequent aesthetic missteps as well, with frenetic editing, canned music, and heavy-handed imagery. Our 100 journalists strive to inform and improve our East Coast communities by delivering impartial, high-impact, local journalism that provokes thought and action. Dear Zachary was then voted the #3 audience favorite of the festival by viewer ballot, out of the 172 distinguished documentaries screening at Hot Docs. We're churning. Its hard to imagine a well-crafted rendition being as powerful.).
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