It's true that Powder Gangers are very useless. Fallout: New Vegas. Valve Corporation. I end up shunned or hated, but I can still enter the NCRCF and do Eddie's quest. A state-of-the-art subreddit from Vault-Tec. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Instead all they do is mouth off to me in dialogue. I thought being "shunned" toward a faction would result in them attacking me on site? Cell block A contains two Powder Gangers and a few locked containers of explosives and uniforms. --------------COMPATABILITY-------------- This may only happen when wiping out the location without help from the NCR. Reputation is separated into two categories: Fame and Infamy. Saying Nipton "got what was coming to them" when first accepting the aforementioned quest from Vulpes (+1). [Non-game 1][7], Under the lead of Samuel Cooke, a small group of inmates gathered weapons and explosives before rebelling against the NCR staffing the facility. Hostile is different. Once a high-security prison of the Republic, the facility became a fortified stronghold of the Powder Gangers, monitored by Brotherhood and NCR scouts alike. I have no idea if that works, though. There are mods who bring back that cut content and it involves Meyers giving a speech to some previous Powder Gangers who help him defending Primm and bringing back the law. If you talk to the guy at the door he should let you in for a hundred caps or something with a disquise. Thanks mate. -Completed "Booted" by saving the hostages from the Legion. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, communism is a preferable alternative to communism. Eddie holds the key to the Average locked room, which contains a substantial stash of ammunition and explosives. Complete Andy and Charlie by passing the 60. A workbench can be found near the door along with an owned crate of explosives. It is also possible to position the player character on the cliff at the southeast side of the facility and perform a running jump over the fence to avoid the entrance fee. But I do like betraying the PGs and assaulting the prison in that one quest though. Activate the self-destruct sequence of the Hidden Valley bunker (-100). It may take a couple of times but I always do it if I start on the side of Goodsprings. If you help the Powder Gangers you get an easy source of explosives and reloading powder, a safe road to Primm, several easy starting missions to get you some caps, a discount in the Good Springs store, easy access to Meyers, etc. Choosing to spread the new power equally across the entire Vegas grid (+12). NCR hit squads will warn the player character to change their reputation with NCR within three days or they will come after them, trying to kill the player character. Get enough of it and they'll start to attack on sight, but wearing faction-armour will disguise you (just be aware some NPCs can see through it). And if the player character is 'Idolized', they move down the chart to 'Wild Child'. Restoring a neutral reputation status (black on table above) will allow for Veronica being recruited as a companion again. | Subscribe for Mod Showcases and New Release 4K Gaming || Fallout: New Vegas Mod - Powder Ganger Overhaul by Dragbody |https://www.gunetwork.org/t15181-fnvr. Camp Forlorn Hope morale was rebuilt slightly before agreeing to stage the attack on Nelson with Major Polatli (+2). In cell block B just above the outside entrance, a sign reads "cell block K Z." Well It ried that and it didn't work, screw it I'm just going to kill them all and see if I get the good ending anyway. Exploring the Mojave: Southern New Vegas 44 Cottonwood Cove 45 Exploring the Mojave: Western New Vegas 46 Exploring the Mojave: From Westside to Jacobstown 47 Jacobstown 48 Finishing the Outskirts and Claiming the Remnants Power Armor 49 Freeside Old Mormon Fort 50 Atomic Wrangler 51 The Kings School of Impersonation 52 The New Vegas Strip Another advantage is that this mod causes less bloat, by altering less entries. However you will be offered truce once you will enter their camp unless your reputation with them is very bad in which case they will shoot you anyway. Completing Ghost Town Gunfight should now only make you shunned by the Powder Gangers which is caused by completion of the quest and not the death of the Joe Cobb. So releasing and turning the non-violent offenders into deputies under Meyers and supervision would have made more sense. Fallout Wiki is a FANDOM Games Community. 1K. Hannigan If the player character becomes Vilified with the Powder Gangers, they will not be able to enter the facility without its inhabitants turning hostile. Always alone? Originally, any faction member could be killed without loss of reputation, though only if the player character remained [HIDDEN] or in [CAUTION] for the kill without it progressing to [DANGER]. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. With the exception of the White Glove Society, Great Khans and Powder Gangers in Vault 19, all factions will attack the player with a negative reputation. So I became Shunned to the NCR and expected that the next time I ran into one of them I would immediately be attacked, but to my surprise I wasnt. But their mines are good tho. If Veronica had never been interacted with before becoming. I did the mission in the first town where you kill all the powder gangers, not realizing that it would have repercussions, and now I'm vilified by the gang. Cookie Notice Upon entering the facility through the front door, one will find themself in the visitor's center, a lounge-like area with tables, a desk, a first-aid box and a counter with a broken terminal on it. Worsen the condition of an injured Boomer at the. Unresolved: Release in which this issue/RFE will be addressed. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. Afterward, players lose reputation for killing a faction member regardless of a successful sneak kill unless that weapon is silenced and the player remains completely hidden. If you managed to get yourself vilified, you out of luck. Quests I think that the game would have been much better suited if they had replace all the Powder Gangers with random raiders, Eliminated their two missions or at least the option to side with them, and then spent the extra time fixing glitches in the game. Negative reputation can be earned by things such as killing members of a group, being caught stealing, lying, being rude or treating people poorly, or completing quests for the opposite side. However, Carter and the Powder Ganger bodyguards in the warden's office will still be hostile. Fallout: New Vegas. Link: https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/I_Fought_the_LawFallout New Vegas I Fought the Law (Powder Ganger) Quest Walkthrough Even if the player character is idolized by the Boomers, the doctor will not provide them any medical attention, saying that he needs any supplies left to treat the wounded. Ask questions of Pete about Boomer history and pass a skill check for each positive comment (+2 each). Fallout: New Vegas side quest Ghost Town Gunfight Powder Gangers attacking Goodsprings Location Goodsprings Given by Trudy Ringo Rewards 250 caps (100 at Goodsprings, 150 at the Crimson Caravan Company) 150 XP Goodsprings fame +12 Powder Gangers infamy +12 Factions Goodsprings Powder Gangers Related quests Run Goodsprings Run Technical Editor ID Anyway to undo it. Krystal Wilson. This tip can be useful however if one needs to gain access to the NCR Ranger safe house or to use the monorail, or for additional help during the. Think of it as wanting to get an inside "recon" of the NCRCF before joining the NCR on an assault of the prison. Plenty of things to do in good ol' Novac to impress the locals. A negative reputation may result in negative attitudes by the citizens and higher prices when trading. I swore that this time around I wouldn't kill any of them, except in the Goodsprings thing, but I just can't help myself from killing every single one of them. Completed the rest of the quest by wiping out, Completed the rest of the quest by wiping out Cottonwood Cove's Legion forces by dropping radioactive waste on the area (+12) (Wiping out all of the Legion forces manually, followed by dropping the radioactive waste, will not reward additional reputation. In cell block B, the Courier can find Carter, a small-time trader, who has set up shop in the cell block. Convinced the Omerta Thugs to leave peacefully (+2). If you manage to kill somebody while sneaking, your relation do not suffer. [3] This led to deathclaws settling into the quarry and plaguing the northern reaches of Long 15, shutting down caravan traffic to New Vegas. I've done the Powder Gangers quests, and quite frankly there just isn't any incentive to help them. All of these will be compatible with this mod. One of the boxes always produces a random skill magazine. Rebuilding to a neutral reputation status (black on table above) will allow for Boone to be recruited as a companion again, despite his possible angered departure beforehand which caused him to leave. Offer additions to the Boomer school curriculum for the. Wear the Powder Ganger armor. I think you can also start Come Fly With Me just by entering the REPCONN Test Site, without talking to anyone in Novac. Negative reputation for all towns and factions, For an overview of the game mechanic across titles, see. Refusing to participate in this quest, as long as it is done politely, will still earn Fame, albeit much less (+1). Once you're past that point there's very little you can do. It's a sort of tutorial for the reputation system. IMO the best good guy plan is to not finish Ghost Town Gunfight until you do I Fought the Law. (Really early spoilers, I guess? Wearing faction armor can be used to kill members of an opposing faction without gaining Infamy with that faction. For specific low-level range values for various factions, see the talk page. Complete How Little We Know by assisting Big Sal at Gomorrah in his preparations to stage an uprising on the Strip for Caesar (-12). This happened to me when I was vilified. Eddie dies under any circumstance, which will happen as part of the, The only exception to this is if Eddie dies during the NCR attack on the, Turning in Vault suits as part of the quest, The skill check required to do this can be bypassed by never mentioning that the White Glove Society was behind, Complete Beyond The Beef by either failing to convince, or encouraging, Heck Gunderson's proposed embargo of his meat products for the Strip after he learns that the White Glove Society was behind his. Helping the town is the more moral choice. There are upwards of 40 empty whiskey bottles lying around in the prison yard. Please present your passport. Wed May 02, 2012 6:08 pm. A possible solution is to travel to the Mojave Outpost, put on non-faction clothing/armor, go to where Major Knight is located, save and then speak to Major Knight; select the Speech option asking if there is anything the player can do to help. Why did the NCR think it was a good idea to give convicts dynamite and to send a felon from their jail in California that is known for using explosives to commit crimes to the Mojave jail that was undermanned? Ever wanted to live the life of a raider. You have Chet and Trudy as vendors for that part of the map. (So they wouldn't fall off cliffs). Great for those who prefer to sling their dynamite than getting up close and personal. The jail was understaffed. One can also then prompt further dialogue questioning Ulysses why the Marked Men are comprised of both NCR and Legion soldiers working together, despite the two sides normally being enemies, to which Ulysses will talk about how their feelings of suffering and abandonment have united both in a combined hatred. Alternatively, you could acquire an NCR uniform to disguise yourself and try if you can then talk to Dusty or even Andy about their quests. Camp Forlorn Hope morale was not rebuilt before agreeing to stage the attack on. [Non-game 1][6] The inmates were tasked with maintaining a railroad alongside the Long 15 under military supervision, keeping the vital link between the Boneyard and New Vegas alive. This gives you access to a Gangers merchant before the assault and then you can wrap up Ghost Town Gunfight 75% off all statistics are made up on the spot Fighting Deathclaws when you're at LOW level <: P, I fought the law without losing reputation. NCR Correctional Facility Using their outfit with bad reputation doesn't work, the unnamed Powder Gangers leaves you alone, but the named ones (Dawes, Eddy, etc) will still turn hostile. That said, the mod can still be started and finished if installed on an ongoing playthrough, with a minor hiccup if the player has already wiped out NCRCF. *shrugs*. What was your reputation with them at that time? Map marker Also, once the reputation of 'Wild Child' is earned, there is no ability to change it at all. Well join the Powder Gangers. Killing members of any faction from a [HIDDEN] state will not cause one to gain Infamy as long as the weapon is considered silent and the target dies with one attack, or if one uses Mister Sandman. You lose karma for stealing, but it's more of a personal marker. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. The prison has one main entrance, which is guarded by a Powder Ganger named Dawes. You know, what you are talking about was actually intended to be in the game but was cut. Info This is where the NCR sent prisoners to "reform" through hard labor. Hey all, I'm no new player to fallout but I've had a problem crop up. or having Idolized reputation), they will never become friendly to the Courier again. Similarly, above the door of cell block A, a sign reads "cell block A J. At least one remaining brahmin was saved (+4). I only start in Goodsprings occasionally. Mayor is the only one who don't want to take part in any crime because he himself was a crime fighter, get put to the jail because he's too hardcore. [Non-game 1][5] When the NCR occupied the Mojave, it was commandeered to house prisoners on a work-release program. Quest scripts themselves rarely grant Infamy towards factions, but there are a few which do: A town's reputation determines the player character's treatment by the townsfolk. All rights reserved. Fallout New Vegas community and everything related. The Version table provides details related to the release that this issue/RFE will be addressed. A positive reputation may yield positive dialogue, discounts from vendors, and even free gifts from wandering citizens. Hostile is different. Once the dialogue is complete, check the Pip-Boy. I tend to have the same problem with the Legion as well. [4], Before the Great War, the NCR Correctional Facility was the Jean Conservancy, a low-security all-female state prison. On the road northwest of the facility are six signs that read "NOTICE: Hitch hikers may be escaped prisoners" with the, The NCR Correctional Facility is based on the real life location of, Each of the Powder Ganger snipers have an entry for. 000E19D6 (exterior)0008D516 (admin)0008D0FA (cell block A)0008D48E (cell block B)0008D0D5 (visitors center) Or would I just have to wait until later and take care of it by myself? If you join them it is either an early grave, or hatred by everyone (bye bye Vegas!) Circumstances, but circumstances can change. As part of the first quest mentioned above, an NCR hit squad will approach and warn to improve reputation with the NCR within three days. Snipers form an effective perimeter around the facility. If the player character fast-travels away from a location where/when they are normally expected to receive scripted Fame or Infamy before the notification pops up (e.g. Our Fallout New Vegas Game Guide includes a walkthrough across this. Anyone know if this is supposed to happen or does it depend on how many Powder Gangers you yourself actually kill during the quest? Kill every Ganger in the main building apart from Eddie, leave the building and wait a day, come back with a powder ganger outfit, sneak until you're just outside the office, then stop sneaking and run to talk with him. You can actually do all of Eddie's requests without killing anyone, so no karma issues. Negative reputation yields the following: The nomadic army from the East is notoriously hard to impress, but incredibly easy to offend. Press J to jump to the feed. For example, if the player character wears Legion armor and kills an NCR soldier, Infamy will be gained, but will be reset to one's prior reputation upon the removal of the disguise. When I was just shunned second time they did not turn hostile and I could talk to Eddie. Powder Ganger Simple: A simple t-shirt and jumpsuit combo. (Many cops in real life are facing the same judgement too.) They are going after the wrong objective. What's the point of being fanatical about something that's overall trivial if the attitude is going to be "Y'know, you should be as obsessive as I am as well as know and remember everything I do." Disguises are only available for the five big factions (Brotherhood, Legion, Khans, NCR, and Powder Gangers) and, as such, only mask the standing with those five factions. Still, the bug you're talking about does exist. Convince Heck Gunderson against cutting off the food supply to the Strip (+12). Turn in all 3 supply caches and pass the Science check for the irradiated supplies (+2). Blew up the monorail and succeeded in framing a scapegoat to secure Ronald Curtis' cover (+12). There are very few ways but here a re a couple off the top of my head. I recently started a new play through of Fallout New Vegas, and i wanted to do some of the powder gangers quests because i had never done them before. You're browsing the GameFAQs Message Boards as a guest. This was changed in the December 14, 2010 update. Both Jacob Hoff and Bill Ronte were successfully cured of, or convinced to seek help for, their additions (+12). The leader Pearl predicted that one day an outsider would get past the defenses of Nellis and help connect the Boomers with the rest of the world, even if "only a little." I do like the lore of the powder gangers a lot more than goodsprings. Buildings White Glove Society attire is special, since it masks reputations with six factions; the five mentioned above and the Society. During the same scenario as above, it is confirmed that he will propose a truce, in which the player character stays away from the gang outposts and the gang leaves them alone. Speaking to him will initiate the I Fought the Law quest. Towns will never be permanently hostile to the player character; leaving the town for three days and returning should remove any hostility. Also, assuming you care about what your reputation is with the Powder Gangers, the reputation reduction you by killing them in the quest hardly affects anything regarding the three or four quests regarding the Powder Gangers. [Non-game 1] Some embarked further south to cause mayhem along the Interstate 15. Vilified by Powder Gangers, is this bad? One can also then prompt further dialogue questioning Ulysses why the Marked Men are comprised of both Legion and NCR soldiers working together, despite the two sides normally being enemies, to which Ulysses will talk about how their feelings of abandonment and suffering have united both in a combined hatred. The Brotherhood of Steel will give the player character a key to the, They will replenish an ammunition crate next to, Lucius will teach the player character the special, The Legion will also provide various items within boxes outside of, Allows the player character to convince the mercenaries in, Allows the player character to convince each camp in, Required along with a Speech of 50 to trade with. Five of the six towers have Powder Gangers posted at the top, and each contains minor stealable loot, consisting of mostly ammunition and healing items. IS there a way to stop beig vilified from the powder gangers. With every faction except Goodsprings, the Boomers and Novac, reputation will reset to neutral. Exterior Even if they are hostile to you. The NCR is an equal opportunities employer. Carter They only have 2 quests to gain relation with them and if you side with Goodsprings it's really hard to even do the second one (not that doing it would make them hate you much less). Ref ID shamelesscreature 2 yr. ago. Powder Gangers love to hold grudges. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. To not get vilified, do not kill every powderganger you encounter. So I am now more or less around Novac, the NCR has been put to the task of keeping Primm in check and I have unfortunately missed out on going to the NCRCF before handling the Powder Gangers at Goodsprings. Also, be aware that karma is largely irrelevant in New Vegas and that it is infamy with specific factions which gets you shunned by them. There are two things to keep track of: karma and reputation. Huh. (Note: Script for Primm reputation exists within the game, but is not used.). They tell me to get lost most of the time, but if being vilified by NCR meant attacked on sight, you pretty much would have to stay away from civilization altogether. Fame is positive and Infamy is negative. I think with the NCR what people are saying is right: Shunned isn't enough for them to shoot on sight. Mister Holdout will sell weapons to the player character at an inflated price. If that doesn't work, I do ghost town gunfight after the NCRCF. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. As if there's anything in this game that's not incomplete. When I want to play with the Powder Gangers, I just skip the Good springs confrontation altogether. If you help the Powder Gangers you get an easy source of explosives and reloading powder, a safe road to Primm, several easy starting missions to get you some caps, a discount in the Good Springs store, easy access to Meyers, etc. [Non-game 1] Blasting their way out of the cellblock, they quickly overwhelmed what little NCR personnel was present at the site, killed the warden, and established their own rule. Because of that you can still do the Powder Ganger quests. For Fallout: New Vegas on the Xbox 360, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Shunned from Mojave Outpost and Vicki and Vance Casino in Primm". Ask questions of Pete about Boomer history and comment negatively on each of them (-1). You have to be sneaking (crouched) and you have to be hidden (it'll say [HIDDEN] at the top of the screen when you're [HIDDEN],) to avoid gaining negative reputation with whatever faction you're stealing from. NVCE changes their appearance. Both types of reputation are tracked separately, the combination of which determines one's reputation with any given faction. The community on the outskirts of the Strip has its own code, accepting to those that help, and shunning to those that do not. Mercy killing the NCR trooper hostages (+2). I think with the NCR what people are saying is right: Shunned isn't enough for them to shoot on sight. Local map You keep the Trudy, the bartender, and Doc Mitchell alive, so thats a plus. Persuade the Great Khans to release the hostages and then tell the NCR to honor the agreement to escort them back to. Powder Gangers are members of the Powder Gangers living in the Mojave Wasteland in Fallout: New Vegas . Powder Ganger Rusher: An outfit fit for a psycho. My current playthrough has that bug with the Legion. For example, if killing a Powder Ganger while wearing a uniform of theirs, it might reset all faction reputations. I wouldn't bother. I reloaded my last save which I made 2 hours ago :(. A small, sleepy town that can quickly become an ally; or an enemy. All Discussions Screenshots Artwork Broadcasts Videos News Guides Reviews . They can kill him without incurring the wrath of the other gang members and enter the facility. They do shot you on sight because they are powder gangers. Just run away if you happen to get in to the fight with them. Unlike other items in his inventory, pickpocketing the key will never fail as long as the player character is hidden. He helped the gangers take the town and "received rep with the gangers" which promptly disappeared. But it is a difficult quest for low level characters. Factions provide the following benefits/consequences with adequate reputation: In addition, one's reputation with the major factions affects the kind of Courier duster that is received at the end of Lonesome Road. Reputation is separated into two categories: Fame and Infamy. Telling Marjorie that the player "eat[s] people, too" (-1). Even after siding with the NCR and retaking the prison, the alarm will continue to sound. Please re-enable javascript to access full functionality. There seems to be a lot of Powder Ganger questions today. Working on the Chain Gang is a Powder Ganger-centric quest mod designed to begin in the early game, when the player is being introduced to the chain gang, and ends in the midgame. The ranges of reputation vary by faction. If one's reputation with the NCR is above neutral, he will reply that the Courier has done a great deal in a short time and advises them to ask around. That would allow you to do the NCRCF quests more easily whichever way you want to proceed. As a Moments subpage, all spoilers are unmarked as per policy. Compatibility Forever hated, lacking food, warmth, and sanity? Unlike other mods that add in new races or genders to the Powder Gangers, this mod comes with fully voiced dialogue for these Femgangers that not only reacts to nearby events occurring, such as a named Ganger dying or Quarry Junction being cleared out or Hidden Valley blowing up, but also sound right at home with a criminal. If Arcade had not previously been recruited, and reputation was. He even ask for the pardon and he want to protect primm from any harm by his frontier justice and put on the sheriff's uniform to make things cooler. Equip the armor of the faction the player character is trying to work with to reset reputation to neutral. Leaders If one follows the I Fought the Law questline, they are given the chance to storm the base with the NCR or help the Powder Gangers defend it against the NCR. I think you can give Boxcars a bunch of Med-X too to help ease his pain in Nipton. If you need to kill them, do it while hidden. [Non-game 1] The prisoner population dispersed, with some following Cooke into Vault 19, and others staying with Eddie as Powder Gangers, and established camps around the correction facility. Reputation will probably have reset from neutral to the proper standing. Short of either eliminating them entirely or using console commands, probably not. They disappear completely from the storyline after the opening area. It's true that Powder Gangers are very useless. The New California Republic Correctional Facility (commonly abbreviated to NCR Correctional Facility or NCRCF) and known before the war as the Jean Conservancy,[Non-game 1] was an NCR prison located southeast of Goodsprings that currently acts as the main settlement of the Powder Gangers and a staging point for raiding the local area in 2281. He is located at Powder Ganger camp south, which is just south of the prison. Factions How do I do that? Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. ? All rights reserved. You can have minimum rep and some factions wont attack you provided you did a couple of good things for them (off the top of my head I think you can even be vilified and provided you didnt shoot anyone they'll just be really rude to you.). Powder Gangers are not good guys, you get good karma for killing them so why if you are playing a good character are you bothered that they don't like you? My game is unlucky enough to be severely bugged when it comes to the Powder Gangers so Im real weary now when it comes to something to do with my reputation in game. Fallout: New Vegas. Doing Cooke's quests also nets fame, but no rank up. However, after hearing his offer, choosing to ignore it will not provoke any altercation. How do I get to the Boomers without being blown up? For more information, please see our I completed Run Goodsprings Run and it gave me a Shunned reputation with the NCR. I can't remember if Shunned reputation is enough to actually trigger a faction hostile-on-sight, though. But if you help Good Springs you get a handful of caps and well nothing else except now you have to battle your way everywhere since the Powder Gangers hate you and for what? Doctors I also play with an alternate start mod, so that helps. You can loot one from Joe Cobb. They're hostile to the player for the most part, so they're just asking to get popped. Unless provoked they will not attack you yet. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. It is possible to pickpocket the key from him to avoid the fee.
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